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 Post subject: Re: Capuano for Hanrahan? Speculation
PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:57 am 
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That's my fear. Hanrahan was "effectively wild" this year, which worries me because there's a good chance he will be ineffectively wild next year.

I agree 100% Willton..."ineffectively wild" is what I fear Hanrahan will become if he isn't there already. :?

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:08 am 
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Same here.

Last year, he started looking like he did in Washington. I was nervous every time he came in. Remember what happened to Capps when we parted with him. It was the right time to cut ties and and I fear it may be that time with Hanrahan too.


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Then again, Hanrahan's struggles may have been transient. He certainly has the stuff to dominate for years to come.

I like him fine as our closer, but if I have to choose between him and another good starter, I'll take the starter.


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Ralphie wrote:
Then again, Hanrahan's struggles may have been transient. He certainly has the stuff to dominate for years to come.

I like him fine as our closer, but if I have to choose between him and another good starter, I'll take the starter.

That's the problem with trading him...I don't think we are going to get a "good" pitcher in return. That's why I say keep him and hope someone comes up with a need for a back end arm at some point during the season.


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Then again, Hanrahan's struggles may have been transient. He certainly has the stuff to dominate for years to come.

I like him fine as our closer, but if I have to choose between him and another good starter, I'll take the starter.

That's the problem with trading him...I don't think we are going to get a "good" pitcher in return. That's why I say keep him and hope someone comes up with a need for a back end arm at some point during the season.


I think I'm in this camp.

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Now that Anibal signed with Detroit Porcello is available. Its such a good match for us, you have to think NH is pursuing it.

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Now that Anibal signed with Detroit Porcello is available. Its such a good match for us, you have to think NH is pursuing it.


We can hope. I'd trade Hanrahan plus a sweetener to get Porcello. He was rushed to the majors and has better potential than his numbers have shown. He's also an extreme ground-ball pitcher who's had an awful defense behind him. The Pirates have a decent defense and should be able to give him better support (not better RUN support, though, obviously).


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I agree with J_C. If I was NH, i'd give up Joel and some extra for Porcello. He may not have the biggest arm out there, but he is exactly the kind of guy who would thrive at PNC Pank and in the National League.


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Jim Bowden reports we are interested in Porcello, Padres are in too.

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Ralphie wrote:
Then again, Hanrahan's struggles may have been transient. He certainly has the stuff to dominate for years to come.

I like him fine as our closer, but if I have to choose between him and another good starter, I'll take the starter.

The list of closers who were dominant over the long haul is a very, very short list.

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Barrys Dopers wrote:
Jim Bowden reports we are interested in Porcello, Padres are in too.


http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2012 ... t%7CSports


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This would take more than Porcello, though — perhaps Brennan Boesch and/or a mid-tier prospect, too.


I like that thinking.

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Interesting points about Porcello, all.

It does seem like he's a natural fit, seeing as how DET seriously needs 'pen help.

And with the transition to the NL, plus having a better D behind him (and maybe having some 'pressure' taken off and/or having 'worked through the flak' in his transition to the show?), RP may see a 0.50 or more decrease in ERA (and/or good spikes other kep stats like FIP/xFIP, WHIP, etc.).

Interesting to consider, but even more tempting since it is a distinct possibility which NH and co. very seriously need to pursue.

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 Post subject: Re: Capuano for Hanrahan? Speculation
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http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/12/a ... cello.html

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Angels In Contact With Tigers About Rick Porcello
By Mike Axisa [December 15, 2012 at 9:21pm CST]
The Angels have been in contact with the Tigers about Rick Porcello, reports Danny Knobler of CBSSports.com. The Pirates, Padres, Rangers, Phillies, Twins, and Royals also have interest in the right-hander, though Knobler says Detroit doesn't have interest in Pittsburgh closer Joel Hanrahan.

Drafted 23rd overall in 2007, the 23-year-old Porcello zoomed to the big leagues after just one season in the minors. He owns a 4.55 ERA with 5.0 K/9 and 2.3 BB/9 in 120 starts and 691 2/3 innings. His 52.3% ground ball rate helps make up for the lack of strikeouts. Porcello earned $3.1MM in 2012 and projects to earn $4.7MM in his second trip through arbitration this winter. He's a Super Two and will be eligible for free agency after 2015.

The Tigers re-signed Anibal Sanchez a few days ago, rounding out a stellar front-four that includes also Justin Verlander, Doug Fister, Max Scherzer. Porcello and Drew Smyly are the front-runners for the fifth starter's spot. The Angels have acquired Tommy Hanson and signed Joe Blanton this winter, but they're still looking for rotation depth behind Jered Weaver and C.J. Wilson.


Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/12/a ... 7hUydPE.99


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Not a big deal. Hanrahan will have another great season and once again be a top end closer in this league. If the bucs are out of it at the trade deadline the bucs will move him for something better. Detroit's loss. Not to mention they need a closer.


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buccosfan77 wrote:
Not a big deal. Hanrahan will have another great season and once again be a top end closer in this league. If the bucs are out of it at the trade deadline the bucs will move him for something better. Detroit's loss. Not to mention they need a closer.


They could be saying that to gain leverage but who knows.


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His re-up deal was fairly cheap compared to the market, but would you have liked to see the Pirates pay the prospect price to acquire R.A. Dickey?

If the Pirates somehow do nab Porcello or a solid FA arm, it may be for the best.

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D'Arnaud is considered a top 10 MLB prospect, right? Like on the Gerrit Cole level? If so, no.

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His re-up deal was fairly cheap compared to the market, but would you have liked to see the Pirates pay the prospect price to acquire R.A. Dickey?

If the Pirates somehow do nab Porcello or a solid FA arm, it may be for the best.


The price tag was essentially a top 20 prospect and a second top 100 guy. Something like Taillon + Heredia, too steep in my opinion.

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The Rangers still want to add to their bullpen, and Rosenthal suggests they could make a play for Pirates closer Joel Hanrahan. The team is also exploring other bullpen options via trades and free agency. Hanrahan’s projected salary of $6.9MM limits interest from the Dodgers and Tigers, Rosenthal writes. Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/12/r ... pRpVjHA.99


Wouldn't it be something if they managed to get Olt jor Joel?


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