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 Post subject: Jair Jurrjens - Any Interest?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:52 pm 
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Brutal last year, but great in 2011. We have a RECENT history of being able to turn some pitchers back around.

No idea what he will command on the market.

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 Post subject: Re: Jair Jurrjens - Any Interest?
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Yes, absolutely.

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 Post subject: Re: Jair Jurrjens - Any Interest?
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Absolutely. Yes to Jurrjens, no to Dickey.


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 Post subject: Re: Jair Jurrjens - Any Interest?
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Charleston_Charlies wrote:
Absolutely. Yes to Jurrjens, no to Dickey.

Jurrjens recent shoulder problems mean he throws about as hard as Dickey.

Seriously, Dickey has an 81-mph knuckle ball, and Jurrjens was throwing 84-85 mph the last time I saw him starting.


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 Post subject: Re: Jair Jurrjens - Any Interest?
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Bucfan wrote:
Charleston_Charlies wrote:
Absolutely. Yes to Jurrjens, no to Dickey.

Jurrjens recent shoulder problems mean he throws about as hard as Dickey.

Seriously, Dickey has an 81-mph knuckle ball, and Jurrjens was throwing 84-85 mph the last time I saw him starting.


Didn't realize Jair had lost that much velocity. Ouch. Non-tendered quietly for a reason, I suppose.

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 Post subject: Re: Jair Jurrjens - Any Interest?
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I think he's finished.

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 Post subject: Re: Jair Jurrjens - Any Interest?
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Bucfan wrote:
Charleston_Charlies wrote:
Absolutely. Yes to Jurrjens, no to Dickey.

Jurrjens recent shoulder problems mean he throws about as hard as Dickey.

Seriously, Dickey has an 81-mph knuckle ball, and Jurrjens was throwing 84-85 mph the last time I saw him starting.


Pitch FX says 88.6 in 2012, but that is still way down from his 91 range when he was good. Still, he will only be 27 next year.

Dickey will cost a ton as he should, we arn't in that bidding.

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 Post subject: Re: Jair Jurrjens - Any Interest?
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Barrys Dopers wrote:
Pitch FX says 88.6 in 2012, but that is still way down from his 91 range when he was good. Still, he will only be 27 next year.

His velocity simply disappeared by July, due I presume to his myriad of injuries.

His production for July showed 18 IP, 33 H's, 7 K's, an ERA of 8.20 and a WHIP of 1.98. He was toast.

I guess a team can see how he is throwing in a practice session. I guess. But he is much less interesting than Karstens.


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