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 Post subject: Josh Hamilton
PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 8:21 pm 
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Yay or Nay?

I saw on MLB Trade Rumors that the Pirates could be a player in getting Hamilton.

So, who would want us to take a chance and that financial commitment?

I think I would. Put him in RF.


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 Post subject: Re: Josh Hamilton
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 Post subject: Re: Josh Hamilton
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 Post subject: Re: Josh Hamilton
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Nay.

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 Post subject: Re: Josh Hamilton
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He's a stud, so he'd be more than we can afford. But since he's 31 and only averaged 120 games/season for the past 5 years, I won't mind missing out on him.

But man o man, a 2-5 of Walker, McCutchen, Hamilton and Pedro would do a lot of damage....


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 Post subject: Re: Josh Hamilton
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These are the types of risks the Pirates need to do. Their past ways are epic failures. If they can only get one free agent...make it count. Every free agent is a risk. Do it.

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 Post subject: Re: Josh Hamilton
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No way...this is a guy who's body is beyond fragile. Whether that is just genetics or from the years of abuse he put himself through earlier, he is/has peaked. You pay for previous production and get DL landings, reduced production and worse (potentially) a relapse of poor judgement. The risk is way too high for Hamilton.

If he was worth keeping, Texas would have already resigned him.


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 Post subject: Re: Josh Hamilton
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I want to clarify one thing on my post. This is with the assumption that Hamilton is desiring a long term deal (5+ years). If he were to come to the Bucs for a one or two year deal, I wouldn't mind nearly as much. I just would hate to see the Bucs dragged down by an albatross of a contract (a la the Jason Kendall deal).


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 Post subject: Re: Josh Hamilton
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I think whoever signs him is going to deeply regret it. So lets hope it isn't us.

Though I do think the Pirates should take SOME kind of gamble in FA this year, it shouldn't be to the level of Josh Hamilton.


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 Post subject: Re: Josh Hamilton
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Is he still taking drugs? Rays dumped him years ago because of that.

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 Post subject: Re: Josh Hamilton
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It's not because anyone is worried of a relapse, it's mostly because he's probably peaked as a player and just going to battle injuries into his 30's. And given his production, he's going to be due A LOT of money.


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 Post subject: Re: Josh Hamilton
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Steelcurtain512 wrote:
It's not because anyone is worried of a relapse, it's mostly because he's probably peaked as a player and just going to battle injuries into his 30's. And given his production, he's going to be due A LOT of money.


This. He'll produce at around the same level as Cutch for about double the price... Heck, just look at the deal Jason Bay got. Granted it was by the Mets but the point still stands that the ROI is not nearly enough for this to make sense for a small market club.


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 Post subject: Re: Josh Hamilton
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I'd say no but I'd be excited if they signed him.

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 Post subject: Re: Josh Hamilton
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He's never played 160 games. It's not like Texas doesn't have money anyways, he should just stay there where he already knows he can mash the ball.

As said, McCutchen can be a Hamilton-esque offensive player. And Pedro has 50 HR power if he puts everything together. We'd be better off going after Nick Swisher, or trading Hammer for someone.


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 Post subject: Re: Josh Hamilton
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LetsGoMarauders wrote:
Is he still taking drugs? Rays dumped him years ago because of that.

That was many years ago, and as we can all see, he has cleaned up his act. Hamilton had a tremendous resurgence with Cincinnati 5 years ago, and after his trade to Texas, he's become the perennial All-Star you see today.

I would not be worried about the drugs. I would be most worried about his age and fragility. Hamilton is probably worth every penny in the short term, but he's a bad bet long term.

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 Post subject: Re: Josh Hamilton
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SUPERCHARGED APE wrote:
I'd say no but I'd be excited if they signed him.

Agree with this...I would think the money that would be spent of Hamilton would be money that could be spent on a more important need of the team like pitching, catcher, shortstop, ect.
Is anyone else actually happy with the outfield the pirates currently have? I really like an outfield of Marte McCutchen Snider then with Tabata playing occasionally.

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 Post subject: Re: Josh Hamilton
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My vote is "no." Anyone watching him over the last 1/4 of the season can't help but wonder what might be going on with him. Injury? Personal demons? Disinterest? The Rangers apparently don't want him back and - at least to me - that speaks volumes. They have the cash flow to retain a person of his capabilities and they see him on a daily basis.

For what its worth, ESPN reported this morning that the Red Sox will be courting him. For that reason alone, the Bucs will not be seriously considered as an option for him. The Red Sox need to make a splash to win back the fans and Hamilton would provide exactly what they are looking for. Hamilton would only consider the Pirates if he was looking at a one year contract to "rehabilitate" himself for a huge multi-year contract. Some team will spring big bucks for him. He will be far too expensive over a far too long of a contract.

Have to look at other scenarios.

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 Post subject: Re: Josh Hamilton
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 Post subject: Re: Josh Hamilton
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Maybe chalk this up to 'small sample size' or 'cherry picking', but I seem to recall another former MVP Rangers OF'er hitting FA around age 30, being offered a HUGE long-term deal (which he amazingly refused!) and I don't think that worked out too well...

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 Post subject: Re: Josh Hamilton
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Willton wrote:
LetsGoMarauders wrote:
Is he still taking drugs? Rays dumped him years ago because of that.

That was many years ago, and as we can all see, he has cleaned up his act. Hamilton had a tremendous resurgence with Cincinnati 5 years ago, and after his trade to Texas, he's become the perennial All-Star you see today.

I would not be worried about the drugs. I would be most worried about his age and fragility. Hamilton is probably worth every penny in the short term, but he's a bad bet long term.


Yeah, way too many questions about his health and any long term effects of those drug abuse years.

Even discussing this is an exercise in futility, we arn't going to be handing out $100 million to anyone. Forget it, move on.

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