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 Post subject: The hitters take most of the abuse...
PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 3:32 pm 
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...but it's the pitching that really sucks for the Pirates. Not that the hitting is great or anything, but the Pirates will be going into next season with only two guys in the rotation who are worth a damn.

PNC Park has really suppressed hitting this year for some reason. That makes the hitters look worse than they are (not that they're great to begin with), and makes the pitchers look better. Here are the Home/Road ERA splits for next year's rotation candidates:

Wandy Rodriguez...3.63...3.99
A.J. Burnett.........2.92...4.01
James McDonald....2.73...5.95
Jeff Karstens........1.84...6.11
Kevin Corriea.......3.84...4.74
Team Total.........3.14...4.78


From looking at those numbers, resigning Corriea would be stupid, and tendering Karstens would be a bad idea as well. They need to bring in at least one above average free agent starter. Two would be better. I think this is more important than catcher, shortstop, or any other problem for next year.

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My guess is that, unless something drastic happens, Gerritt Cole will be joining the rotation in June. How will he do? None of us knows.....


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DocJeanO wrote:
My guess is that, unless something drastic happens, Gerritt Cole will be joining the rotation in June. How will he do? None of us knows.....


Just thinking the same thing - plus Jameson Taillon eventually too.

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LetsGoMarauders wrote:
DocJeanO wrote:
My guess is that, unless something drastic happens, Gerritt Cole will be joining the rotation in June. How will he do? None of us knows.....


Just thinking the same thing - plus Jameson Taillon eventually too.



While I fully expect to see Cole lighting up the radar gun by June next year, I don't think that we will Taillon until 2014 at the earliest.


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I mentioned this in another thread, but Jon Lester seems like a great AJ part II candidate. If they deal Joel they can afford a partial contract. He's owed $11.25 million for 2013 and a $13 million team option for 2014.

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Karstens fought injury a lot this year, but he's valuable when healthy. He should and will be tendered.


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Karstens fought injury a lot this year, but he's valuable when healthy. He should and will be tendered.

Yes, he's was valuable when healthy and pitching at PNC. Everywhere else he was terrible. I'm not saying that they should tender him, but they sure betting not count on him for a rotation spot all year long. They need to have him compete for the rotation spot.

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Karstens fought injury a lot this year, but he's valuable when healthy. He should and will be tendered.

Yes, he's was valuable when healthy and pitching at PNC. Everywhere else he was terrible. I'm not saying that they should tender him, but they sure betting not count on him for a rotation spot all year long. They need to have him compete for the rotation spot.

Karstens' home/away splits are a fluke. They were almost equal last year, and he had a worse home ERA than road ERA in 2010. Nothing to see here, folks.

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Sounds like NH doesn't want to tender Karstens because he's too small. I guess that was the thinking when LA traded Pedro.

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Willton wrote:
sisyphus wrote:
J_C_Steel wrote:
Karstens fought injury a lot this year, but he's valuable when healthy. He should and will be tendered.

Yes, he's was valuable when healthy and pitching at PNC. Everywhere else he was terrible. I'm not saying that they should tender him, but they sure betting not count on him for a rotation spot all year long. They need to have him compete for the rotation spot.

Karstens' home/away splits are a fluke. They were almost equal last year, and he had a worse home ERA than road ERA in 2010. Nothing to see here, folks.

I don't think so at all. The home vs. road spreads for the whole staff are pretty wide. I'd say it's probably a fluke that his was the widest of all, but that's as far as I'd go.

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