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 Post subject: Re: September 1, 2012: Pirates (70-61) at Brewers (63-68)
PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 11:29 pm 
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Presley should still be in the minors. I agree on Barojas. This guy offers nothing. Not good defensively, can't hit. McHenry is nothing more than a platoon player. Pirates lost this game simply because they cannot hit. They leave the bases loaded twice. Can't have that. AJ pitched a good game for the most part. But can't win with no run support. More poor defense too. That includes base runners stealing at will.


Ya Joel blew it in the 9th. But who really blew it was the offense. Back to hoping they finish over 500 again. :cry:


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 Post subject: Re: September 1, 2012: Pirates (70-61) at Brewers (63-68)
PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 11:35 pm 
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CashInFist wrote:
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DAMMIT PRESLEY...at least swing the bat!

He looks at more pitches than anyone I know...and then complains...


It was a ball...


So what?? In that situation, you have to swing if it is close enough to get a call.

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 Post subject: Re: September 1, 2012: Pirates (70-61) at Brewers (63-68)
PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 11:50 pm 
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Once again Pirates fail to gain any ground. Once again they cannot beat the Brewers.


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 Post subject: Re: September 1, 2012: Pirates (70-61) at Brewers (63-68)
PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:06 am 
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rwjcgc wrote:
Presley has less killer instinct than Honey Boo Boo.


Count me in the 'hang Presley!' crowd tonight.

I get why they gave a day of rest to Tabata, but...

Tonight we saw why this team needs Marte back AS and P.

His 'free swinging' would have been a welcome sight in the one-spot tonight.

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 Post subject: Re: September 1, 2012: Pirates (70-61) at Brewers (63-68)
PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:46 am 
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Alvarez took strike 3 with bases loaded...Jones took strike 3 with two guys on...McCutchen stuck out with two guys on...Snider couldn't make contact to save his life. And Presley..no comment. You'd think it was Steven Strasburg out there, but nope just Marco Estrada topping out at 92 MPH with a decent changeup to go with it and virtually no curve ball. I don't think he threw one after Alvarez took him deep. But then again, if I've learned anything on this board it's that strikeouts are just another out.


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 Post subject: Re: September 1, 2012: Pirates (70-61) at Brewers (63-68)
PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:47 am 
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Animal wrote:
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It was a ball...


So what?? In that situation, you have to swing if it is close enough to get a call.

If he swings, it's a ground ball to the first baseman. If it's called a ball, like it should have been, it's an RBI walk. Presley made the right decision and got screwed.

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 Post subject: Re: September 1, 2012: Pirates (70-61) at Brewers (63-68)
PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 9:48 am 
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Willton wrote:
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It was a ball...


So what?? In that situation, you have to swing if it is close enough to get a call.

If he swings, it's a ground ball to the first baseman. If it's called a ball, like it should have been, it's an RBI walk. Presley made the right decision and got screwed.


Alex Presley Ball, Strike (looking), Strike (looking), Strike (looking), A Presley struck out looking

Not sure how he's awarded first base for ball 2, but whatever. The fact is, even if you think he's right taking that last pitch, he took two pitches right down the middle to get to that point.


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 Post subject: Re: September 1, 2012: Pirates (70-61) at Brewers (63-68)
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Willton wrote:
If he swings, it's a ground ball to the first baseman. If it's called a ball, like it should have been, it's an RBI walk. Presley made the right decision and got screwed.


I'm pretty sure he made the wrong decision. He took the game out of his hands and let the pitcher/umpire decide his fate. It was extremely close, I have no issues with it being a strike. Take your hacks, maybe foul the pitch off.

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 Post subject: Re: September 1, 2012: Pirates (70-61) at Brewers (63-68)
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Willton wrote:
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It was a ball...


So what?? In that situation, you have to swing if it is close enough to get a call.

If he swings, it's a ground ball to the first baseman. If it's called a ball, like it should have been, it's an RBI walk. Presley made the right decision and got screwed.


Why? He could not have hit it somewhere??

And what about the first two pitches he took right down the middle of the plate?

Worst at bat of the game right there.

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 Post subject: Re: September 1, 2012: Pirates (70-61) at Brewers (63-68)
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Willton wrote:
Animal wrote:
CashInFist wrote:
It was a ball...


So what?? In that situation, you have to swing if it is close enough to get a call.

If he swings, it's a ground ball to the first baseman. If it's called a ball, like it should have been, it's an RBI walk. Presley made the right decision and got screwed.

Excellent. So now you can predict where a player would have hit a certain pitch if he'd have swung at it. Your prowess knows no bounds.

And once again, for the record, the pitch tracker on Root Sports coverage showed that the pitch WAS on the low edge of the strike zone.

I know you think the walk is great. Obviously it is better than making an out. But how about our guys thinking base hit, or God forbid, a gap shot to clear the bases. That's what winning teams and players do. I like Presley's hustle, but it is becoming clearer that he isn't a winning player.


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